Tuesday, September 27, 2011

Auburn fans continue to stalk Alabama TB Trent Richardson

Last month, IBCR exposed what was clearly the beginning of a criminal conspiracy to commit assault with a deadly weapon when we reported that a group of Auburn fans were discussing plans to cause a vehicle collision with Alabama's junior Tailback Trent Richardson.

Follow the link for details.

It hasn't stopped. The same God-fearing, Christian Auburn Fambly members of the Bunker--Auburn's super secret fan message board on rivals.com--are now apparently driving around the home Richardson resides in with his mother and his two small children, taking pictures, snooping around and stalking private citizens who happen to be associated with a football program that has obsessed them for decades.

These people are so weird that welcoming the strangely cultish Texas A&M fan base into the SEC will be an improvement. At least Texas A&M has some tradition to go with the psychosis.

Here's a partial screenshot of the Bunker thread in question. Click the image for the full resolution version.

The author of the post (you can give her your feedback on Twitter @BettyCrocked) had also posted some interesting and recent imagery, indicating that someone has indeed been hanging out around Richardson's home.

Not only is that kind of creepy, it's also probably illegal. Stalking is a crime in Alabama.

But as creepy and as illegal as it is, it's also right in character with what Paul Finebaum described as the "Lunatic Fringe" of the looniest fan base in the SEC, if not the country.

Maybe you remember the story of John “Stump” Thrower, a man once described by former AU Athletics Director Navid Nousel as “an Auburn zealot.” Thrower’s zealotry went so far that, according to WJOX’s Herb Winches, he personally paid thousands of dollars to former Alabama player Gene Jelks to tell stories about his time in Tuscaloosa. His motive? He was outraged that former Auburn player Eric Ramsey had tape recordings of conversations with Pat Dye and other coaches on the Auburn staff. Those recordings—related to thousands of dollars in improper benefits to Auburn football players—led to the SEC’s most penalized school getting put on probation again. There wasn’t a crimson fingerprint anywhere near Eric Ramsey’s tape recorder, but By God Alabama was gonna pay for this.

Thrower died in November 2009. Alcoholic, broke, disgraced, divorced and badly behind in child support payments.

Maybe you also remember the little radio rant by former Auburn AD Nousel himself, wherein he compared the University of Alabama to Nazi Germany. No, really. He actually did. Go see for yourself.

Maybe you remember Mark Green, who is also dead. Mr. Green and a group of message board posters from Inside the Auburn Tigers--another lunatic fringe message board--decided to launch “Operation Red Dog,” a plot to get Alabama the “death penalty” by getting its football players in trouble for receiving extra benefits in 2009:


1) This started when JH went to Alabama at the last minute instead of AU. A coach of his had ensured AU staff that he was headed to AU and not Alabama. He was aware of what AU had offered JH and his mother stuff and possibly knew that JH mom had taped AU's offer. He still felt AU was his choice. JH put on the Alabama hat and the crap hit the fan at AU. Our staff called the coach and asked him what happened and he said he did not know but would have to guess that Alabama "countered" AU's offer. He never said he knew that Alabama had cheated but that he guessed that took place. After this, he asked JH why he went to Alabama and he said that if he went to AU he thought his eligibility might have been revoked if the NCAA found out about AU's offer. JH said Alabama and MSST both played it straight with him and his mom and that is why he went to Alabama.
2) This incident led the AU staff to believe that they lost out on the bidding for JH and they told people that Alabama had cheated. At this point, the coach could not get the corrected story out there fast enough. Irontiger knows this coach and was told the first story about how the coach thought Alabama cheated. Later, irontiger was told that Alabama did not commit infractions but he had already started his own rumors and his reputation grew as well as his imagination.
3) Irontiger then brought in a few of us to help spread the rumors- myself (ITAT name withheld) sherpa88, troopT and a few others and then koury. I dropped out about three months ago when I found out they had hired a PI that might have broken some laws and when I confronted iron about it he said they would send the information anonymously and no one could trace it back to him. The problem is his big mouth and he could not stop talking about it - then everyone found out about operation red dog and who was in it. After I dropped out koury joined the inside board back in March of this year as the repeat and sounding board of irontiger. The plan was simple: irontiger would start the thread and a few of us would join in and then someone would come back and verify everything irontiger has said was truthful- that is koury's job now.
4) During the past 16 months this has been going on. The MO was to stay the same in every area. Charge that recruits got new cars- Mobile was escalades and Gadsden was chargers. Start new rumors along the way about booster infractions, enticements and other benefits as much as we can. The most effective thing that irontiger came up with was that when any Alabama player does something immediately tie it to an infraction. If julio and mark goes fishing a booster paid for it- it was really simple. If KK got a car immediately say a booster paid for it even though in this case they knew for sure it came from his mothers college fund for him.
Now everyone knows how this happened. Now to the why.
We all knew that CTT and staff were not going to be effective against Miles, Saban, Richt and Meyer. We had to negate one of them and the easiest one was to hit Saban. We choose him due to his proximity and volatility of our rivalry with Alabama. We all really thought CNS was cheating a little (secondary type stuff) and thought if we can keep enough rumors churning we could get the NCAA to investigate or at the least keep a few recruits away from Alabama. Irontiger knew this would work and said, "the idiot masses on ITAT will believe any rumor we put out about Alabama because they want to believe it"! I was skeptical until I saw the masses believing every rumor even as our gang accidentally got the rumors incorrect many times- types of cars, colors and amounts of cash. Each time we told the rumor it seemed to grow and our fanbase kept believing every one of them until Michael14 and Austudent22 caught on to us and called us out for it.
You will see more revelations about this coming from multiple boards as they have started figuring out that 4-5 posters on ITAT started all these rumors. Once it went so far I told irontiger that coaches at these schools were being implicated as cheaters from the AU fanbase and that we should call it off and he said those Alabama coaches were a-holes and he did not care if they got called cheaters. I told him that they weren't cheaters and that they had started calling into AU's athletic department complaining about. When the PIs and reporters showed up and questioned these high school coaches about cheating for Alabama they wrote AU off. This really hit the fan around March of 2009 and that is when I left irons group. I know for a fact that irons rumors cost us 2 recruits last year (one four star and one 5 star) because the coaches at there school were called cheaters by the rumors started on ITAT. Our 2009 recruiting efforts were dramatically hurt by these rumors and 2010 is looking just as bad for instate recruits.
I stayed on the fringe until last week when the PTB at AU sent word to me and irontiger that it had to stop. Irontiger stopped for a day or so and then started rehashing it all over again. He has troopT and koury doing the heavy posting now and he just "supports" the rumors instead of "initiating" them. If our own posters knew just how stupid irontiger said they were they would not follow his rumors any more.
Now, I have completed the task I was advised to do. Once PF gets to the bottom of this and the package that iron put together it will turn litigious."


Not only is teh Auburn fambly obsessed with Alabama football players, they also seem to have a strange fascination with automobilies, despite the fact that the University of Alabama Compliance Department has one of the strictest protocols for vehicle ownership and documentation in the country.

I see your Harvey Updyke and raise you one Stump Thrower, one Mark Green and a BettyCrocked.

Oh, remember the Mark Ingram/Julio Jones fishing trip and the Jerrell Harris laptop incidents? All caused by Operation Red Dog, using Curtis Anderson, a man who’s family “roots for another SEC school.”

Exit question: Guess which “other SEC school” Anderson’s family roots for?

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15 comments :

ifr4 said...

The funny thing is, you don't consider yourself the lunatic fringe of the other side. Keep it up...you, Auburngate, Auburngeddon and the Bunker dwellers are going to end up destroying both programs. You can count on it.

But do tell me one thing...how CAN Richardson afford a 2011 Yukon?

Floridan Blogger said...

Can you tell me how Corey Lemonier could afford a brand new Corvette?

Or how Jermain Whitehead could afford a brand new Charger?

Or how Dakota Mosley could afford a brand new Charger (and who provided him with the thousands of dollars worth of cash he was photograpphed holding)?

Or why Cecil Newton can't say he DID NOT solicit money from *ubarn... "When asked whether Cecil solicited money from auburn or not, he said, 'Whatever the NCAA findings are, that's what we're going with.'"

Or why Reese Disumukes was photographed with TIGERETTE HOSTESSES at a party during a recruiting visit?

Or why Greg Robinson received an iphone on a recruiting visit?

Or why Stanley McClover, Chaz Ramsey and the other two members of the HBO4 would admit to receiving extra-benefits while playing at *ubarn?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

Bamabird said...

Betty needs to grab a box of popcorn and head on up to her realm as "empress of the Good Housekeeping Seal of approval". Just go watch some football for heaven's sake.

Jay said...

So, by perpetuating "Operation Red Dog", Auburn's recruiting efforts have, and will continue to, suffer. Therefore, those that continue this ORD agenda are content to loose a few recruits if it tarnishes the perceived reputation of their rival? Even though it is actually hindering their own recruiting efforts? LOL!

Floridan Blogger said...

Has anyone found out who this woman is yet?

gr82banautiger said...

Q: "Can you tell me how Corey Lemonier could afford a brand new Corvette?"

First, his family isn't poor, but 2nd, it was a rental for his prom. It isn't parked at practice, unlike the 30+ cars valued over $35k in the Alabama players parking lot.

"Or how Jermaine Whitehead could afford a brand new Charger?"

Haven't heard this one. Any proof?

"Or how Dakota Mosley could afford a brand new Charger (and who provided him with the thousands of dollars worth of cash he was photograpphed holding)?"

Dakota didn't have a brand new charger, he had a 4x4 pickup truck, that was pretty nice, of course his father OWNS A BUSINESS, so it doesn't seem unlikely for him to have a nice truck. The picture you're talking about was taken in 2008 and posted on his facebook before Auburn even recruited Dakota Mosely, and before our current staff even existed.

"Or why Cecil Newton can't say he DID NOT solicit money from *ubarn... "When asked whether Cecil solicited money from auburn or not, he said, 'Whatever the NCAA findings are, that's what we're going with.'"

Cecil denied ON NUMEROUS OCASSIONS that he was solicited by Auburn. In fact he denied soliciting anyone. The NCAA believes it was Kenny Rogers that approached Cecil, not the other way around. Cecil's mistake was listening to Rogers and allowing him to represent him to MSU boosters.

"Or why Reese Disumukes was photographed with TIGERETTE HOSTESSES at a party during a recruiting visit?"

First, Tigerettes are allowed to host recruits on recruiting visits. But the particular photo you're talking about was a picture of his COUSIN at a Halloween party.

"Or why Greg Robinson received an iphone on a recruiting visit?"

He didn't. It was a false rumor. He DID receive travel re-imbursement for his OFFICIAL visit which is perfectly legal per NCAA rules.

"Or why Stanley McClover, Chaz Ramsey and the other two members of the HBO4 would admit to receiving extra-benefits while playing at *ubarn?"

Because the HBO crew was going around asking for people that were down on their luck with an axe to grind. They tried to dig up dirt on Cam, and were unable to do so. So instead, they found a guy who needed money and HBO coverage for his "charity", a guy who had been turned down his application to be a GA on the team, a guy with an open lawsuit against Auburn University, and a guy that never played a single snap at Auburn. Meanwhile multiple well known players and 4 year starters said they roomed with these guys, and none of them had any money. The HBO 4 were liars, put up to it by HBO to drag AU through the mud after they couldn't find anything on Cam.

gr82banautiger said...

Eric Ramsey's tape recordings were of Eric BEGGING the coaches for money because he had a wife and a child, and couldn't feed them and couldn't make his rent.

Pat Dye finally agreed to help him get a loan after about the 50th phone call pleading by Ramsey. If that makes AU a dirty program, then I don't know what to tell you.

I guess Trent Richardson NEEDED that Yukon, huh? I wonder how many phone calls it took him to Saban to get it?

Jay said...

@gr8banautiger - As soon as you have proof a violation occurred, come on back and give us the proof.

gr82banautiger said...

"Last month, IBCR exposed what was clearly the beginning of a criminal conspiracy to commit assault with a deadly weapon when we reported that a group of Auburn fans were discussing plans to cause a vehicle collision with Alabama's junior Tailback Trent Richardson. "

You're still insisting this is true after it was shown to be a joke? Seriously?

And you're calling ITAT and the bunker "lunatic fringe" after the crap you've blogged about for the last 3 years and you STILL have links to "Bingo Gate" and "The Jawa Report" on your website?!? SERIOUSLY?

You morons rambled for months on Bingo jackpots, ATM cards, and money that supposedly went to Cecil Newton, and involved every government agency from the FBI to the FDIC to the IRS? And then call The Bunker the "lunatic fringe"??!

SERIOUSLY?!!?


11 months later, the bingo trial is over, not a single Auburn grad was convicted in that, nor the Colonial/Taylor Bean mess, and not a SHRED of evidence has been found that Cam or Cecil recieved a SINGLE SOLITARY DIME of money.

There's no extravagent spending by Cam or Cecil. The Church repairs (which were only $11k, not $50k) were all vetted and PROVEN to be paid for by his older son that was on an NFL practice squad.

Meanwhile you're got Julio Jones driving around your campus in a $40k tahoe with custom paint and custom rims. Mark Ingram driving around in an Escalade with custom rims, Trent Richardson driving around in a $45k Tahoe with custom rims and his mother living in 3 different houses over the last two years one of which was valued at nearly $750k, Dre Kirkpatrick driving around in a $30k brand new Charger with custom paint/graphics and his mom driving around in a new Cadillac, and Jerrell Harris in a new charger and being given a laptop. Julio Jones and Ingram receiving free cruises, and suits, along with apparently half of the Alabama starting lineup for the last two years.

You guys are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. If there was HALF this much PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF of impermissible benefits for Auburn players you'd be shouting from the rooftops. Instead, you want to look the other way and deflect without offering any plausible.

The Cam rumors, the bingo rumors, the colonial rumors were nothing but rumor and innuendo. There hasn't been a single solitary SHRED of evidence that any of it was true, but BamaOnline, this blog, TiderInsider, and CrimsonConfidential ran with it and posted it as fact everywhere.

YOU and your fanbase are the lunatic fringe, just like your old pal Harvey Updyke who posted on Tider Insider.

gr82banautiger said...

Jay said...

"@gr8banautiger - As soon as you have proof a violation occurred, come on back and give us the proof."

You mean like pictures, traffic tickets and car fax reports? because those are all available for anyone who wants them.

As opposed to NO PROOF WHATSOEVER in Camgate, Bingogate, and Colonialgate? That you and your idiot fanbase have been trumpeting for the last 11 months?

Me thinks thou dost protest too much.

gr82banautiger said...

The following diatribe was posted on ITAT by a BAMA FAN pretending to be an Auburn fan. IT IS NOT TRUE, and I've told the author of this blog that multiple times. I have the IP addresses and alternate User Id's to prove it.

"1) This started when JH went to Alabama at the last minute instead of AU. A coach of his had ensured AU staff that he was headed to AU and not Alabama. He was aware of what AU had offered JH and his mother stuff and possibly knew that JH mom had taped AU's offer. He still felt AU was his choice. JH put on the Alabama hat and the crap hit the fan at AU. Our staff called the coach and asked him what happened and he said he did not know but would have to guess that Alabama "countered" AU's offer. He never said he knew that Alabama had cheated but that he guessed that took place. After this, he asked JH why he went to Alabama and he said that if he went to AU he thought his eligibility might have been revoked if the NCAA found out about AU's offer. JH said Alabama and MSST both played it straight with him and his mom and that is why he went to Alabama."

gr82banautiger said...

Again, more false information from this "lunatic fringe" blog...

"Thrower’s zealotry went so far that, according to WJOX’s Herb Winches, he personally paid thousands of dollars to former Alabama player Gene Jelks to tell stories about his time in Tuscaloosa. "

Thrower did help Gene find a job, but it wasn't to make up stories about Alabama. Gene Jelks gave him PHOTOGRAPHED CHECKS FROM AN ALABAMA BOOSTER.

This is a matter of record in the NCAA report of infractions. This is not disputable.

Please quit lying to your readerbase.

Jay said...
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Jay said...

You guys have been crowing about cars for the past 3 years and the NCAA has either found nothing wrong, or no reason to investigate. So, I guess you guys need to give us a little bit more, yes? If you find that a violation has occurred, GET BACK TO US.

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